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[ic] Re: Recommendation for CA to issue Certs.



If you are just trying to secure non tranactional (ie not online stores)
domains you can build your own SSL it just won't be recognized by the
browsers as a trusted SSL. If you are using RedHat read the docs on creating
a SSL for CA.The set up is exactly the same except your not sending any info
to the CA

Once you implement the SSL it will work. We did this on a test server.
Remember, changes to apache is need

-----Original Message-----
From: interchange-users-admin@interchange.redhat.com
[mailto:interchange-users-admin@interchange.redhat.com]On Behalf Of
Barry Treahy, Jr.
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:22 AM
To: interchange-users@interchange.redhat.com
Subject: Re: [ic] Re: Recommendation for CA to issue Certs.


Julia Jacobs wrote:

>On 2/20/02 5:33 PM, "Nathan D. Olmscheid" <nathan@namisolutions.com> wrote:
>
>>I know he was talking about a wild card cert. Thats what we use for our
>>clients on our servers. It just don't feel it is that expensive. We are a
>>hosting company and we have a cert for our server, then each client on
that
>>server gets a subdomain cert (wild card cert)
>>
>>Nathan
>>
>>P.S. I still may be missing something, but it does not seem that expensive
>>to me.
>>
>
>If a client is serious about their on-line store they will not want a
>subdomain (i.e. eroticdogbiscuits.supermall.com or
>superspandexshorts.supermall.com) because they want to look professional
and
>be taken seriously and want a first level domain.
>
Ok, I plead ignorance...

When I acquired my first cert about five years about, the choices were a
FQDN (ie. www.midwest-microwave.com) or a wildcard for the domain
(*.midwest-microwave.com).  I'm not interested in subdomains
(www.attenuators.midwest-microwave.com), just the ability to have
multiple hosts (ie. smtp.midwest-microwave.com,
www.midwest-microwave.com, mml1.midwest-microwave.com, etc...) within
our main domain being able to fully utilize the cert.

Is there a difference here or are you equating subdomains to hosts
within a domain and is Thawte doing this same thing?

Regards,

Barry


>That being said if they
>are serious they won't mind paying the $125 either for a commercial cert so
>they can put that cool Thawte logo on the index page.  If they are just
>getting there feet wet, want to blow their money in chunks at a time,force
>you to listen to them complain that no one is buying their stuff and they
>have already spent a whole X number of piddley change while conveniently
>ignoring your tales of "I sold my beloved children to a white slavery ship
>headed for the flesh pots of Bancock to start my business", they can get a
>cheapo subdomain cert.  That's my 2¢, for whatever its worth (which last I
>checked on the soapbox exchange rate was about . . .2¢)
>
>If you become an ISP Partner with Thawte like I did (its free) you pay $125
>for the first cert. Each $125 cert after that you get for $100 (saving
$25).
>If you prepay you get more of a discount.  They also have something called
>VICE (used to be called Gandalf) which is supposed to be Red Hat compatable
>and can put the info forms and scripts you need to generate the Thawte
certs
>on your server.
>
>My beef with Thawte is less with there pricing scheme as it is with their
>really really sloooooooow support.  I got an e-mail telling me my ISP
>Partner account was active but when I had a client all ready with her
credit
>card to perchase a cert, I entered my account code and got an "account not
>active error".  It was after office hours so I could not call phone
support.
>I sent my client home apologizing profusly and used Thawte's crappy Java
>based chat support which crashed repeatedly.  The support guy told me to
>send my grievance to some e-mail address.  I told him. . . .
>
>Anyway to make a long storey short, two days later I got it straightened
>out.  I've sent three e-mails to four people in the last two weeks
>requesting VICE for my server and have gotten no response.  I guess I have
>to get on the phone and call.
>
>So that's been my experience with Thawte so far.  Sorry for the long run -
>on sentences.
>

--

Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO

E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028



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