From romero at kde.org Tue Jan 8 08:03:00 2002 From: romero at kde.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?V=EDctor=20Romero?=) Date: Tue Jan 8 08:03:00 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Spanish i18n Message-ID: <200201081503.g08F37400200@programasdefuturo.com> Hi all, just wondering if theres already a translation project of interchange into spanish, it there isnt I'll start one right now... Greetings From jacktsai at yapstudio.com.br Tue Jan 8 09:25:00 2002 From: jacktsai at yapstudio.com.br (Jack) Date: Tue Jan 8 09:25:00 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Spanish i18n References: <200201081503.g08F37400200@programasdefuturo.com> Message-ID: <001c01c1984f$d027eb80$e9d0b6c8@YapStudio> Hi there I haven't heard anything about spanish version of ic, in fact I'd promised to Racke that I'd send him my pages and templates from pt_BR version and haven't done that yet... I've been working on some custom versions using ic systems, I'll turn back to the demo interface soon. Regards Jack 3Light Technologies Ltda, Brazil. ----- Original Message ----- From: "V?ctor Romero" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: [interchange-i18n] Spanish i18n Hi all, just wondering if theres already a translation project of interchange into spanish, it there isnt I'll start one right now... Greetings _______________________________________________ interchange-i18n mailing list interchange-i18n at interchange.redhat.com http://interchange.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/interchange-i18n From racke at linuxia.de Tue Jan 8 09:38:01 2002 From: racke at linuxia.de (Stefan Hornburg Racke) Date: Tue Jan 8 09:38:01 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Spanish i18n In-Reply-To: <200201081503.g08F37400200@programasdefuturo.com> References: <200201081503.g08F37400200@programasdefuturo.com> Message-ID: <87itaczz8m.fsf@snowflake.linuxia.de> V?ctor Romero writes: > Hi all, just wondering if theres already a translation project of > interchange into spanish, it there isnt I'll start one right now... Which part of Interchange do you want to translate ? The administration part or the foundation demo catalog too ? Ciao Racke -- For projects and other business stuff please refer to COBOLT NetServices (URL: http://www.cobolt.net; Email: info at cobolt.net; Phone: 0041-1-3884400) From romero at kde.org Tue Jan 8 14:22:00 2002 From: romero at kde.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?V=EDctor=20Romero?=) Date: Tue Jan 8 14:22:00 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Spanish i18n In-Reply-To: <87itaczz8m.fsf@snowflake.linuxia.de> References: <200201081503.g08F37400200@programasdefuturo.com> <87itaczz8m.fsf@snowflake.linuxia.de> Message-ID: <200201082122.g08LMm405510@programasdefuturo.com> On Tue 08 Jan 2002 15:36, Stefan Hornburg (Racke wrote: > V?ctor Romero writes: > > Hi all, just wondering if theres already a translation project of > > interchange into spanish, it there isnt I'll start one right now... > > Which part of Interchange do you want to translate ? The administration > part or the foundation demo catalog too ? Them both, first the administration From racke at linuxia.de Tue Jan 8 15:17:01 2002 From: racke at linuxia.de (Stefan Hornburg Racke) Date: Tue Jan 8 15:17:01 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Spanish i18n In-Reply-To: <200201082122.g08LMm405510@programasdefuturo.com> References: <200201081503.g08F37400200@programasdefuturo.com> <87itaczz8m.fsf@snowflake.linuxia.de> <200201082122.g08LMm405510@programasdefuturo.com> Message-ID: <87hepwr45m.fsf@snowflake.linuxia.de> V?ctor Romero writes: > On Tue 08 Jan 2002 15:36, Stefan Hornburg (Racke wrote: > > V?ctor Romero writes: > > > Hi all, just wondering if theres already a translation project of > > > interchange into spanish, it there isnt I'll start one right now... > > > > Which part of Interchange do you want to translate ? The administration > > part or the foundation demo catalog too ? > > Them both, first the administration Well, if you like to make the translation as a contribution to Interchange, contact me under racke at linuxia.de. Ciao Racke -- For projects and other business stuff please refer to COBOLT NetServices (URL: http://www.cobolt.net; Email: info at cobolt.net; Phone: 0041-1-3884400) From romero at kde.org Tue Jan 8 17:56:01 2002 From: romero at kde.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?V=EDctor=20Romero?=) Date: Tue Jan 8 17:56:01 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Spanish i18n In-Reply-To: <87hepwr45m.fsf@snowflake.linuxia.de> References: <200201081503.g08F37400200@programasdefuturo.com> <200201082122.g08LMm405510@programasdefuturo.com> <87hepwr45m.fsf@snowflake.linuxia.de> Message-ID: <200201082255.g08MtSw30899@interchange.redhat.com> El Mar 08 Ene 2002 21:14, Stefan Hornburg (Racke escribi?: > V?ctor Romero writes: > > On Tue 08 Jan 2002 15:36, Stefan Hornburg (Racke wrote: > > > V?ctor Romero writes: > > > > Hi all, just wondering if theres already a translation project of > > > > interchange into spanish, it there isnt I'll start one right now... > > > > > > Which part of Interchange do you want to translate ? The administration > > > part or the foundation demo catalog too ? > > > > Them both, first the administration > > Well, if you like to make the translation as a contribution to Interchange, > contact me under racke at linuxia.de. Of course, I'll send you it in a week or so Greetings From mheins at redhat.com Mon Jan 21 00:26:01 2002 From: mheins at redhat.com (Mike Heins) Date: Mon Jan 21 00:26:01 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Re: Chinese locale In-Reply-To: <001401c1a22d$15bc8930$af71a8c0@vincen>; from vincen@lycos.com.cn on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 11:38:26AM +0800 References: <001401c1a22d$15bc8930$af71a8c0@vincen> Message-ID: <20020121002518.A5472@bill.heins.net> Quoting Vincen Ker (vincen at lycos.com.cn): > Hi Mike, > I??ve translated the admin UI into a Chinese locale (in GB2312, > cn_GB.cfg and images). > I am willing to share it in Interchange community. I am not > sure whether it is appropriate > to send the package to you. > Please reply. Thanks! > Hi Vincent, We would love to have this. I am sending it to interchange-i18n at ic.redhat.com, which is the Interchange Internationalization mail list. If you can tar or zip up the files, you can send them to the list (and copy\ me). Jon Jensen of Red Hat has been doing some work on a Chinese localization, but has not done any work on the UI that I know of. As you probably know, there are some issues with proper handling of localized data in the UI. We are working on addressing these, and your localization will give us another data point there. Thanks! We look forward to working with you. Regards, Mike Heins -- Red Hat, Inc., 3005 Nichols Rd., Hamilton, OH 45013 phone +1.513.523.7621 For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled. -- Dick Feynman From vincenker at lycos-asia.com Mon Jan 21 01:43:01 2002 From: vincenker at lycos-asia.com (vincenker) Date: Mon Jan 21 01:43:01 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Re: Chinese locale In-Reply-To: <20020121002518.A5472@bill.heins.net> Message-ID: <001d01c1a247$39b07d50$af71a8c0@vincen> Here are Chinese locale files for Interchange admin UI in zip. Any problem, please feel free to contact me. :) Vincent -----Original Message----- From: interchange-i18n-admin at interchange.redhat.com [mailto:interchange-i18n-admin at interchange.redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mike Heins Sent: 2002?1?21? 13:25 To: Vincen Ker Cc: interchange-i18n at ic.redhat.com Subject: [interchange-i18n] Re: Chinese locale Quoting Vincen Ker (vincen at lycos.com.cn): > Hi Mike, > I??ve translated the admin UI into a Chinese locale (in GB2312, > cn_GB.cfg and images). > I am willing to share it in Interchange community. I am not > sure whether it is appropriate > to send the package to you. > Please reply. Thanks! > Hi Vincent, We would love to have this. I am sending it to interchange-i18n at ic.redhat.com, which is the Interchange Internationalization mail list. If you can tar or zip up the files, you can send them to the list (and copy\ me). Jon Jensen of Red Hat has been doing some work on a Chinese localization, but has not done any work on the UI that I know of. As you probably know, there are some issues with proper handling of localized data in the UI. We are working on addressing these, and your localization will give us another data point there. Thanks! We look forward to working with you. Regards, Mike Heins -- Red Hat, Inc., 3005 Nichols Rd., Hamilton, OH 45013 phone +1.513.523.7621 For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled. -- Dick Feynman _______________________________________________ interchange-i18n mailing list interchange-i18n at interchange.redhat.com http://interchange.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/interchange-i18n -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Chinese.zip Type: application/x-compressed Size: 42551 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.icdevgroup.org/pipermail/interchange-i18n/attachments/20020121/a00a51b1/attachment.bin From chen at lilux.co.il Mon Jan 21 03:37:00 2002 From: chen at lilux.co.il (Chen Naor) Date: Mon Jan 21 03:37:00 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Hebrew encoding in Interchange UI References: <001901c14995$448cafb0$0800a8c0@veriton> Message-ID: <01af01c1a257$4bd26a60$0800a8c0@veriton> Hello Stefan, I think that the character encoding in Interchange should be solved so it will support more languets. The problem is that the code is limit to the low character only and any language that use high characters is not encode. I know the problem is exist in Hebrew but I'm assuming that it will be a problem in other languages like Greek, Russian and more. I know the problem is in the perl code so if you think I should post this to the main list (so Mike can take a look at it) just say to me. Hope we will find a nice solution. Best regards Chen Naor Lilux Systems. http://www.lilux.co.il email: chen at lilux.co.il From jojo at blackpoint.de Mon Jan 21 04:25:00 2002 From: jojo at blackpoint.de (Joachim Leidinger) Date: Mon Jan 21 04:25:00 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Hebrew encoding in Interchange UI References: <001901c14995$448cafb0$0800a8c0@veriton> <01af01c1a257$4bd26a60$0800a8c0@veriton> Message-ID: <3C4BDC60.9044A694@blackpoint.de> Chen Naor wrote: > > Hello Stefan, > I think that the character encoding in Interchange should be solved so it > will support more languets. > The problem is that the code is limit to the low character only and any > language that use high characters is not encode. > I know the problem is exist in Hebrew but I'm assuming that it will be a > problem in other languages like Greek, Russian and more. > I know the problem is in the perl code so if you think I should post this to > the main list (so Mike can take a look at it) just say to me. > Hope we will find a nice solution. If I read the perl module Entities.pm and the article "6.18. Matching Multiple-Byte Characters" (see http://library.cs.tuiasi.ro/programming/perl/cookbook-UNPARSED/ch06_19.htm) right, it seems to me, you or any perl user can change the Entities.pm module to support multiple byte characters. Maybe there is an easier solution, if we can use the idea of the chapter "6.12. Honoring Locale Settings in Regular Expressions" (see http://library.cs.tuiasi.ro/programming/perl/cookbook-UNPARSED/ch06_14.htm) in Entities.pm? Joachim -- Hans-Joachim Leidinger | Dipl.-Phys.Ing. Entwicklung eCommerce [Hans-Joachim.leidinger at bpanet.de] Black Point Arts Internet Solutions GmbH http://www.bpanet.de From racke at linuxia.de Mon Jan 21 11:57:00 2002 From: racke at linuxia.de (Stefan Hornburg Racke) Date: Mon Jan 21 11:57:00 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Re: Chinese locale In-Reply-To: <001d01c1a247$39b07d50$af71a8c0@vincen> References: <001d01c1a247$39b07d50$af71a8c0@vincen> Message-ID: <87665v63zf.fsf@snowflake.linuxia.de> vincenker writes: > Here are Chinese locale files for Interchange admin UI in zip. Any > problem, please feel free to contact me. :) That you very much, Jon Jensen and myself planning to look at it next week while I'm visiting RedHat in Reston. Cioa Racke -- For projects and other business stuff please refer to COBOLT NetServices (URL: http://www.cobolt.net; Email: info at cobolt.net; Phone: 0041-1-3884400) From racke at linuxia.de Mon Jan 21 20:33:00 2002 From: racke at linuxia.de (Stefan Hornburg Racke) Date: Mon Jan 21 20:33:00 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Hebrew encoding in Interchange UI In-Reply-To: <01af01c1a257$4bd26a60$0800a8c0@veriton> References: <001901c14995$448cafb0$0800a8c0@veriton> <01af01c1a257$4bd26a60$0800a8c0@veriton> Message-ID: <873d0ztbm6.fsf@snowflake.linuxia.de> Chen Naor writes: > Hello Stefan, > I think that the character encoding in Interchange should be solved so it > will support more languets. > The problem is that the code is limit to the low character only and any > language that use high characters is not encode. > I know the problem is exist in Hebrew but I'm assuming that it will be a > problem in other languages like Greek, Russian and more. > I know the problem is in the perl code so if you think I should post this to > the main list (so Mike can take a look at it) just say to me. > Hope we will find a nice solution. Hello Chen, Next week I'm visiting the "Interchange Headquarters" in Reston/VA. Jon Jensen and I are planning to discuss this issues next week. Ciao Racke -- For projects and other business stuff please refer to COBOLT NetServices (URL: http://www.cobolt.net; Email: info at cobolt.net; Phone: 0041-1-3884400) From mheins at redhat.com Mon Jan 21 21:56:01 2002 From: mheins at redhat.com (Mike Heins) Date: Mon Jan 21 21:56:01 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Re: Chinese locale In-Reply-To: <001d01c1a247$39b07d50$af71a8c0@vincen>; from vincenker@lycos-asia.com on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 02:45:20PM +0800 References: <20020121002518.A5472@bill.heins.net> <001d01c1a247$39b07d50$af71a8c0@vincen> Message-ID: <20020121215509.A15797@bill.heins.net> Quoting vincenker (vincenker at lycos-asia.com): > Here are Chinese locale files for Interchange admin UI in zip. Any > problem, please feel free to contact me. :) > Dear Vincent, These have gone to the interchange-i18n list -- Jon and Racke will be working on locale implementations for non-US/European locales next week. Your work will be valuable to that. Please subscribe to the list if you want to monitor things: http://ic.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/interchange-i18n -- Red Hat, Inc., 3005 Nichols Rd., Hamilton, OH 45013 phone +1.513.523.7621 Fast, reliable, cheap. Pick two and we'll talk. -- unknown From vincenker at lycos-asia.com Wed Jan 23 04:58:00 2002 From: vincenker at lycos-asia.com (vincenker) Date: Wed Jan 23 04:58:00 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Re: Chinese locale In-Reply-To: <001d01c1a247$39b07d50$af71a8c0@vincen> Message-ID: <008601c1a3f4$e3fdbfd0$af71a8c0@vincen> There is a mistake in this locale. The locale name should be zh_CN instead of cn_GB according to i18n spec. Please rename it. I encountered a related problem these days. The search box in the front-store could search English; but it found nothing when searching Chinese. I thought it should have something to do with the backend Locale settings. So I changed locale settings in catalog.cfg to be: Locale zh_CN LC_CTYPE LocaleDatabase locale And restarted interchange. Everything was the same. :( I had to verify my Redhat Linux for locale supporting (the following are my operations): $ locale -a ... ... zh zh_CN zh_CN.GB2312 zh_TW.Big5 $ locale -m | grep GB GB2312 GB2312-1980 GB_1988-80 $ export LC_CTYPE='zh_CN' $ export LANG='zh_CN' $ perl -v perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LC_CTYPE = "zh_CN", LANG = "zh_CN" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). ........ ........ Could give me some tips on this? Thanks a lot! Best Regards, Vincent Kore -----Original Message----- From: interchange-i18n-admin at interchange.redhat.com [mailto:interchange-i18n-admin at interchange.redhat.com] On Behalf Of vincenker Sent: 2002?1?21? 14:45 To: interchange-i18n at interchange.redhat.com Cc: 'Mike Heins' Subject: [interchange-i18n] Re: Chinese locale Here are Chinese locale files for Interchange admin UI in zip. Any problem, please feel free to contact me. :) Vincent -----Original Message----- From: interchange-i18n-admin at interchange.redhat.com [mailto:interchange-i18n-admin at interchange.redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mike Heins Sent: 2002?1?21? 13:25 To: Vincen Ker Cc: interchange-i18n at ic.redhat.com Subject: [interchange-i18n] Re: Chinese locale Quoting Vincen Ker (vincen at lycos.com.cn): > Hi Mike, > I??ve translated the admin UI into a Chinese locale (in GB2312, > cn_GB.cfg and images). > I am willing to share it in Interchange community. I am not > sure whether it is appropriate > to send the package to you. > Please reply. Thanks! > Hi Vincent, We would love to have this. I am sending it to interchange-i18n at ic.redhat.com, which is the Interchange Internationalization mail list. If you can tar or zip up the files, you can send them to the list (and copy\ me). Jon Jensen of Red Hat has been doing some work on a Chinese localization, but has not done any work on the UI that I know of. As you probably know, there are some issues with proper handling of localized data in the UI. We are working on addressing these, and your localization will give us another data point there. Thanks! We look forward to working with you. Regards, Mike Heins -- Red Hat, Inc., 3005 Nichols Rd., Hamilton, OH 45013 phone +1.513.523.7621 For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled. -- Dick Feynman _______________________________________________ interchange-i18n mailing list interchange-i18n at interchange.redhat.com http://interchange.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/interchange-i18n From chen at lilux.co.il Wed Jan 23 15:39:00 2002 From: chen at lilux.co.il (Chen Naor) Date: Wed Jan 23 15:39:00 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Hebrew encoding in Interchange UI References: <001901c14995$448cafb0$0800a8c0@veriton> <01af01c1a257$4bd26a60$0800a8c0@veriton> <873d0ztbm6.fsf@snowflake.linuxia.de> Message-ID: <035001c1a44e$8f00e750$0800a8c0@veriton> Hi Stefan, Good luck, And I hope you will reach the best solution. Chen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Hornburg (Racke)" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 3:31 AM Subject: Re: [interchange-i18n] Hebrew encoding in Interchange UI > Chen Naor writes: > > > Hello Stefan, > > I think that the character encoding in Interchange should be solved so it > > will support more languets. > > The problem is that the code is limit to the low character only and any > > language that use high characters is not encode. > > I know the problem is exist in Hebrew but I'm assuming that it will be a > > problem in other languages like Greek, Russian and more. > > I know the problem is in the perl code so if you think I should post this to > > the main list (so Mike can take a look at it) just say to me. > > Hope we will find a nice solution. > > Hello Chen, > > Next week I'm visiting the "Interchange Headquarters" in Reston/VA. > Jon Jensen and I are planning to discuss this issues next week. > > Ciao > Racke > > -- > For projects and other business stuff please refer to COBOLT NetServices > (URL: http://www.cobolt.net; Email: info at cobolt.net; Phone: 0041-1-3884400) > _______________________________________________ > interchange-i18n mailing list > interchange-i18n at interchange.redhat.com > http://interchange.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/interchange-i18n From vincenker at lycos-asia.com Fri Jan 25 05:41:01 2002 From: vincenker at lycos-asia.com (vincenker) Date: Fri Jan 25 05:41:01 2002 Subject: [interchange-i18n] Re: Chinese locale In-Reply-To: <008601c1a3f4$e3fdbfd0$af71a8c0@vincen> Message-ID: <000401c1a58d$06b34bf0$af71a8c0@vincen> My mistakes :( I've fixed it. Please ignore the following message. The front-store deals well with Chinese searching. Vincent -----Original Message----- From: interchange-i18n-admin at interchange.redhat.com [mailto:interchange-i18n-admin at interchange.redhat.com] On Behalf Of vincenker Sent: 2002?1?23? 18:01 To: interchange-i18n at interchange.redhat.com Subject: RE: [interchange-i18n] Re: Chinese locale There is a mistake in this locale. The locale name should be zh_CN instead of cn_GB according to i18n spec. Please rename it. I encountered a related problem these days. The search box in the front-store could search English; but it found nothing when searching Chinese. I thought it should have something to do with the backend Locale settings. So I changed locale settings in catalog.cfg to be: Locale zh_CN LC_CTYPE LocaleDatabase locale And restarted interchange. Everything was the same. :( I had to verify my Redhat Linux for locale supporting (the following are my operations): $ locale -a ... ... zh zh_CN zh_CN.GB2312 zh_TW.Big5 $ locale -m | grep GB GB2312 GB2312-1980 GB_1988-80 $ export LC_CTYPE='zh_CN' $ export LANG='zh_CN' $ perl -v perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LC_CTYPE = "zh_CN", LANG = "zh_CN" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). ........ ........ Could give me some tips on this? Thanks a lot! Best Regards, Vincent Kore -----Original Message----- From: interchange-i18n-admin at interchange.redhat.com [mailto:interchange-i18n-admin at interchange.redhat.com] On Behalf Of vincenker Sent: 2002?1?21? 14:45 To: interchange-i18n at interchange.redhat.com Cc: 'Mike Heins' Subject: [interchange-i18n] Re: Chinese locale Here are Chinese locale files for Interchange admin UI in zip. Any problem, please feel free to contact me. :) Vincent -----Original Message----- From: interchange-i18n-admin at interchange.redhat.com [mailto:interchange-i18n-admin at interchange.redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mike Heins Sent: 2002?1?21? 13:25 To: Vincen Ker Cc: interchange-i18n at ic.redhat.com Subject: [interchange-i18n] Re: Chinese locale Quoting Vincen Ker (vincen at lycos.com.cn): > Hi Mike, > I??ve translated the admin UI into a Chinese locale (in GB2312, > cn_GB.cfg and images). > I am willing to share it in Interchange community. I am not > sure whether it is appropriate > to send the package to you. > Please reply. Thanks! > Hi Vincent, We would love to have this. I am sending it to interchange-i18n at ic.redhat.com, which is the Interchange Internationalization mail list. If you can tar or zip up the files, you can send them to the list (and copy\ me). Jon Jensen of Red Hat has been doing some work on a Chinese localization, but has not done any work on the UI that I know of. As you probably know, there are some issues with proper handling of localized data in the UI. We are working on addressing these, and your localization will give us another data point there. Thanks! We look forward to working with you. Regards, Mike Heins -- Red Hat, Inc., 3005 Nichols Rd., Hamilton, OH 45013 phone +1.513.523.7621 For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled. -- Dick Feynman _______________________________________________ interchange-i18n mailing list interchange-i18n at interchange.redhat.com http://interchange.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/interchange-i18n _______________________________________________ interchange-i18n mailing list interchange-i18n at interchange.redhat.com http://interchange.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/interchange-i18n