[ic] Frustrated with IC 4.8

[Nathan D. Olmscheid]

I would definately support paying a fee for this list. I am unsure of a number.
Enough that it makes it worth while, but not too much that a lot of startups or
college students, etc can not afford it.

Yeck, I am going to join a Cocker Spaniel email list that charges, its minimal,
but its something.....I think Interchange should charge for this support list.

Also for everyone complaining about bugs and such. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!  This
is free open source software, if you see a bug, fix it and send it in! Enuf said!
If you need help, post your question and I am sure many are glad to help. Are you
totally clueless?? Maybe pay someone at RedHat to get you started and to the
point where you can utilize this group. Also, READ the TAG REFERENCE in full, and
all other documentation.  I haven't done all the above, I am working on reading
the reference guide, so far I think its written fairly decent.

Nathan

IC-Admin wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 mheins@redhat.com wrote:
> [snip]
>
> >
> > If everyone who was on the mail list was spending money with Red Hat, using
> > our support services, instead of downloading the program for free
> > and then using the mail list, we would, I guarantee, devote more resources
> > to improving the program. We don't expect that, of course, but the fact
> > remains that There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.
> >
> > The only way we will get more resources is for people to spend money
> > with us. There are some ways to do this. You can purchase the E-commerce
> > suite and get a year's worth of support with people to answer your
> > questions as they come up. Or, you can retain us for a few hours of
> > technical support so we can answer your questions and provide guidance.
> >
> > The predecessor to Interchange, Minivend, was largely supported by
> > the clients who engaged me to do work for them based on Minivend.
> > Most of them have never inhabited the mail list, so you wouldn't
> > know them. But they had as much, no more, to do with the longevity
> > of Interchange than anyone. If I hadn't been able to eat, then
> > I would have done something else.
> >
> > It can come in the form of small self-contained contributions
> > to the documentation or utilities -- the work of various people on
> > payment systems is an example. Or it can come in the form of
> > money. All help.
> >
>
> Dear Mike and all other contributing IC developers,
>
> as someone who discovered in a long process of questioning myself, that
> the only way, I could help, would be with money, I like to add something
> with regards to monetary donations.
>
> There might be enough people among us, who really have no current need
> to develop a site for themselves or are not that experienced to do such
> work for others, but who know enough about the history of Interchange
> and understand, that, may be in the future, they might use IC as paying
> customer of Red Hat, but currently don't and can't. Nevertheless those
> among us still follow up on IC and read regularly this list and save
> the "goodies" for future use.
>
> I often felt that the technical help given on this (as well as other
> technical support mailing lists of OSS applications) is the most valuable
> thing given away for free, aside from the open source code  itself.
>
> Therefore I really think, that this list should get a "price",
> which reflects the support IC users should give to say thanks for a free
> software package and to affirm, that we are willing to acknowledge the
> volunteer service on this list by the ones, who are IC knowledgable.
>
> I made once a general suggestion like that on a familiar and often used
> forum of the Open/Free Source community in this regard and got (at least
> to me) a devastating answer. Noone wanted to consider this option of
> supporting an OSS project. I wondered why the response was so negative.
> But, that shouldn't deter me from trying it here again.
>
> I know that asking for some registration fees for this mailing lists
> might only make a relative small amount of money compared to hiring you
> folks for a project or buying the commercial package. But on the other
> hand there might just be enough "very small" businesses or "poor
> individuals", who would be willing to pay a registration fee to this list,
> to make a small difference.
>
> I propose a monthly registration fee to this mailing list to collect
> money for development and documentation support. I like to know, who would
> support this idea and what you consider a price, which would reflect the
> value of help you are getting here.
>
> Birgitt Funk
>
> > Mike
> >
>
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