[ic] Frustrated with IC 4.8

[Sturgisrally.net]

I was just responding to the topic asking for input on the idea.

This is my opinion and an opinion is all that it is.

I did not respond to this topic to have my opinion torn apart and trashed.

You do not know me or what i have contributed in the past.


----- Original Message -----
From: IC-Admin <interchange@my-school.com>
To: <interchange-users@interchange.redhat.com>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ic] Frustrated with IC 4.8


>
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Sturgisrally.net wrote:
>
> > There are a few problems with charging for this mailing list ...
> >
> > First off open source software if free because the original author
wanted to
> > share the wealth of knowlege with everyone and thought that the project
> > could be made better with help of the world instead of the limitations
of a
> > single group.
>
> What the heck. First, this project has not substantially become better
> with the help of the world, no matter what Mike Heins may say. Luckily
> he had enough paying customers in the early years to even bring the
> package up to a level it was recognized by many. If there would have been
> such wealth of knowledge around in the world, I would like to see it on
> the list. Mostly I see a lot of questions from many and a lot of
> (good) answers very few.
>
> >
> > RedHat Inc makes plenty of money selling their documentation on this
> > program.  I for one bought all 4 books (Very Very Well Written) but
there
> > are still a few issues that are not covered.
> >
>
> So ? I just did the same. Ever heard of new editions, upgraded docs etc. ?
> And who told you that Red Hat makes a lot of money by selling the
> documentation of IC. I somehow doubt that, but may be somehow you
> have the real insider knowledge.
>
> > If you start charging for this board you will make it impossible for
some to
> > use the software.  Although most could afford a nominal fee there are a
lot
> > of people out there who cannot.
>
> Why would it be impossible for someone to use the software, if you had to
> pay a registration fee for this list, I ask you ?
>
> If you are going into a public restroom in Germany, you have to pay
> 50 cents. So far, it has not prevented anybody from using them, when
> needed. Unless you want to p** on the street in public places. Sorry,
> for that. But I don't see any relationship between charging a subscription
> fee for this list and not being able to use the software. Do you want
> to tell me you can't afford a monthly fee in the range of a good meal
> to get help from the IC developers ? I then ask myself for what are
> you using the software ? If it's for your own business, you might
> think to invest a little bit of money to use an otherwise free
> software, right ? It's called costs of doing business.
> If it's for your clients, I guess, YOU don't work for free for them,
> right? So, can you explain, why a registration fee would prevent you
> from using the software ?
>
> >
> > Lastly RedHat would be charging for our knowledge all and making a
> > profit on what we have learned and shared freely over the years.
> >
>
> Oh, lord, when you are donating your knowledge to the list at this point
> in time, you jump on the train donating your knowledge at a very late
> stage of this project. I could understand such an argument, if you would
> have been a developer from day one or year one.
>
> If your donations are so huge that they would justify a salary for your
> services, then you need first help the IC package to a point, where it
> actually would be _bought_ and not downloaded for free.
>
> May be free downloads of the software then should end ? Is that what
> you want ?
>
> > Just my 2 cents,
> >
>
> Your cents are worth 30 percent less today. I just wonder what else
> will crash aside from the WTC.
>
> > Corey
> >
> > corey@sturgisrally.net
> > www.sturgisrally.net the worlds first linux powered biker bar  =)
> >
> >
> > > I would definately support paying a fee for this list. I am unsure of
a
> > number.
> > > Enough that it makes it worth while, but not too much that a lot of
> > startups or
> > > college students, etc can not afford it.
>
>
>
>
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