[ic] OT -- Manners - purpose of this list

Robert Trembath interchange-users@icdevgroup.org
Mon Sep 23 11:40:01 2002


Well said!

-----Original Message-----
From: interchange-users-admin@icdevgroup.org
[mailto:interchange-users-admin@icdevgroup.org] On Behalf Of Glenn
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:46 PM
To: interchange-users@icdevgroup.org
Subject: Re: [ic] OT -- Manners - purpose of this list


Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 5:59 PM
Subject: [ic] OT -- Manners - purpose of this list


> I think some of you have forgotten the purpose of this list.  Or maybe
> it's me that doesn't understand it.  I thought we were all here to
help
> each other by sharing experience.  Some of us are beginners, some have
> been using minivend/exchange for a few years now, some are very
> experienced.  It seems some of you have forgotten what it was like
when
> you were new to interchange or minivend and how it was like to be
> somewhat or very confused.  Some of you seem to have forgotten what it
> was like when you set out to design your first web page and were lucky
> to get the formatting even half as good as you wanted it.
>
> I've noticed today, as well as a few times in the last few months
where
> someone posted a link to his site hoping for some constructive help
and
> instead was ripped apart.  One guy needed some help with something and
> the advice given to him by someone on this list was to basically give
up
> all hope of ever being able to administer his own site and hire
someone
> to do the work for him.  That concept excludes any ideas of that
person
> ever learning anything if he just gives up before even starting.  And
> maybe not everyone is in the financial position to pay for an outsider
> to do their work.
>
> Today's insults were to a person who sells fun things and had a 'fun'
> theme to his site. Some of you wanted to insult him on his choice of
> themes because you didn't personally like the idea, maybe it wasn't
> 'corporate' enough for you -- too darn bad -- for YOU. Maybe it was
his
> client's decision to make it that way, or maybe his, but at least he
has
> a plan and put it together.  How many of you who insulted this person
> had totally perfect web sites when you first started?  How many of you
> have had to put up a site based on the way your client wanted when you
> thought it should be some other way?
>
> Feel free to flame me for posting this.  Insult my work while you're
at
> it, any low blow will do.  But if you choose to start such a war, be
> prepared for a return volley, because that's how it goes in war, each
> side has to try to hurt the other more than the last time.  And
remember,
> it was you who decided to wage such a war.
>
> --OR--
>
> How about us all working together to help each other do better with
our
> sites. Each of us who has something to contribute go back to doing so
> for those who could really use the assistance.  Many of us here have
> something to offer, be it minor or major, be it about interchange
> directly, or about web site design in general, or about operating and
> configuring a server, or maybe even business or legal advice.
>
> --


Bravo. I'm new to this list and have been afraid to post a question out
of
fear of being slammed.






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